Bailey Avenue Trolley – B24 line

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    • #4636
      Peter Ostrander
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        Recently my daughter had sent me a photo of 238th Street and Broadway. The date assumed was in the 1920s.

        A few weeks later I was waiting in Grand Central for my Metro North train when I stopped into the Transit museum.

        The then exhibit was on Trolley lines in NYC. What caught my eye was the panel on the Bailey Avenue Trolley line.

        I’m not old enough to remember the trolley lines in the Bronx, which stopped in 1948 but I do remember the No. 38 bus that ran along the same route that replaced this Trolley. But I sure remember the steel trolley tracks imbedded in the black top along Sedgwick Ave, Kingsbridge Road and down Fort Independence Ave to Broadway and 238th St.  If you rode a bike back then most all were truck bikes. Truck bikes were one speed bikes, with fat tires the precursor of today’s multi-speed mountain bikes.  If you were riding your bike in the street and got your front tire stuck in the track you either had to ride straight with the track. If you attempted to turn out of the tracks grip you were sure to flip the bike and hope like hell there was no car or bus coming along the street at the same time.  You also ended up with a road rash for your mistake and possibly a bent rim.

        Below is the photo of the Bailey Ave Trolley at 238th Street and Broadway.  View is very similar to today, and view is looking at the North East corner.

        NYC is no Big Easy but many have a Desire for the Trolley’s return which were more environmentally cleaner than today’s buses. .

        Broadway and 238th Street

        Here are the two panels  from the transit museum exhibit on The Bailey Avenue B24 Trolleys.

         

         

         

      • #4637
        jbakerjonathan
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          This brings back nostalgic memories of the trolleys that ran on Broadway. Sometimes boys would jump and hang onto the rear of the trolley to get a free ride and some thrills. I did that once and decided that it was supremely stupid…I could get really hurt if I were to fall off. In the summer, many trolleys would have wicker sides up to shoulder height and then open from there to the roof that allowed cool air to waft over the riders as the trolley moved from stop to stop. Those were better than the enclosed ones with only the windows opened; no A/C in those days.

          I remember the trolleys going up Kingsbridge Road. I think that they carried a supply of sand to drop onto the tracks for traction in the winter to get themselves up the hill.

          Although the buses are a bane, and having trolleys to replace them would be nice, from a safety standpoint, buses embarking and debarking passengers at the curb is better than doing so in the middle of the street.

          Thanks for this post, Peter.

        • #4638
          Thomas Casey
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            Bronx Trolley Lines did stop in 1948, however you could still ride a trolley up Broadway from Broadway & west 242nd St to west 263rd St and Broadway into Yonkers.

            The streetcars in Yonkers — operated by Yonkers Railroad Company — made their final runs on Sunday November 9, 1952. (Some sources say November 8, 1952.) By then some of the routes had already been cut back with buses substituted on the outer ends. The reason for this was that New York Public Service Commission inspectors had ruled that the condition of track on the outer portions of the some of the lines was too poor to allow the cars to safely operate. For instance on the No. 1-Broadway/Warburton line the trolley service ended at Warburton and Glenwood Avenues. Riders traveling north of Glenwood Avenue — the No. 1 route ran as far as the city line — had to transfer to buses to complete their trip.   Photo on the last day the trolley’s ran have a car from the #1, #2 and #3 line parked at Van Cortlandt Park.

            last trolley

          • #4639
            Thomas Casey
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              Broadway trolleys

            • #4640
              Maurpat
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                Having been born after the trolleys were gone in NYC, the number of this particular trolley brought back memories of the bus route that replaced it: the #24 bus. When we went to Orchard Beach, we always tried to get the #24 bus on Bailey Ave and Kingsbridge Rd to Fordham Road and catch the #12 bus, you usually got a seat then. Otherwise we had to take the #20 to the #12 when there’s less chance of a seat. The same thing done going home. Only problem was, it didn’t run often. I remember there was only one bus driver, his name was Joe. He reminded me of the Jackie Gleason character in the Honeymooners only he was nicer. Love those memories.

              • #4641
                jbakerjonathan
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                  Thanks for the photos, Thomas.

                  In the first picture looking towards the train station, just to the right of the #1 trolley, is the rear of what looks like a 1948 Pontiac (Forest Green color?). What are the chances that that car was my parents’ car? We lived a block away on the street just out of the right frame (on Spuyten Duyvil Pkwy, changed to Manhattan College Pkwy in April, 1953).

                  I wonder if the picture was taken in November since all the trees have full, green leaves, ‘though men are wearing suit jackets and the lady by the #2 trolley is wearing a coat. The temperature in NYC on November 5, 1952 was around 55 F, so maybe the picture was taken on that date. The car at the left frame of the picture is, I believe, a 1951 Pontiac Chieftain with the driver’s window open, ‘though the resolution doesn’t lend itself to a more accurate analysis for either car.

                  The second picture with the #1, #2 and #3 trolleys had to have been taken in the Spring or Summer, not in November, as people are in shirt sleeves, the grass is green and the trees have green leaves.

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