Hedley Hall

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    • #4296
      COGGINSS
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      • #4297
        COGGINSS
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          We had a healthy turnout yesterday for  the ” Panoramas” open house at EDGEHILL yesterday. One of the visitors, Jerry Kisdlinger, was asking about the origins of ” Hedley Hall”  pictured in a photograph of a baseball field. It seems as if it might be (or had been) a Manhattan College building, around 242d Street.

          Does anyone know more? Thanks very much.

        • #4300
          Thomas Casey
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            yes…we covered this area in #882 with the Train Yard building under construction in 1910Hedley Hall

          • #4301
            Thomas Casey
            Participant

              Or is it Hayden Hall ?

            • #4302
              Thomas Casey
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                Broadway trainyard

              • #4303
                Thomas Casey
                Participant

                  A map from 1914 shows the Bleachers Stands in the outfield

                  • #4318
                    ndembowski
                    Keymaster

                      That’s an interesting map, Tom.  The series of parallel lines are the train tracks so are the bleachers the red or yellow rectangle just above the tracks?  The image is too small to read the details.

                      I don’t know where the name “Hedley Hall” comes from.  It does sound more like a college building than a train shed but it was, and still is, a train shed.

                      The original image is held by the Museum of the City of New York but they don’t have a lot of information about it up on their website here.  We reproduced it with a license from the MCNY for our exhibit.

                      The map posted below is interesting as well.  Among other things, you can see the “Free Landing Road” outlined in red pencil.  That area, which is now the Gaelic Park athletic fields was the Kingsbridge town dock.  If you go to that area today, you would have no idea that boats ever docked there because it is completely landlocked.

                  • #4304
                    Thomas Casey
                    Participant

                      Map from 1901

                    • #4305
                      jbakerjonathan
                      Participant

                        On the corner of W 242nd Street and Broadway there used to be a Gulf gas station and repair shop. I think that the photographer took the photo from close to that corner, before any development of that land took place.

                        Soon after that photo was taken that land had an outdoor swimming pool constructed in left field as well as, in center and right field, a building along Broadway that housed a Pontiac dealership as well as the pool business and skating rink. I believe that in the 1950’s the pool was filled in and the building was taken over by Manhattan College and repurposed as Paulian Hall.

                        Here is a picture (credit: manhattan.edu) of the building showing the Gulf gas station at w 242nd Street in the background:

                        In 1949 Fanny Farmer built a factory near the corner of Corlear Ave and W240th Street that was purchased by Manhattan College (MC). It was in that building that MC housed a nuclear reactor in 1963.

                        Here are before and after pictures (credit: manhattan.edu) of the building:

                        Fun fact: I used to see Sugar Ray Robinson driving in his pink Cadillac convertible on W 240th Street. I assume that he had been visiting his mother whose house was on Corlear Ave.

                        • #4319
                          ndembowski
                          Keymaster

                            Thanks for sharing that information and those memories, Jonathan.  So was the Fanny Farmer factory making candy there?

                        • #4306
                          jbakerjonathan
                          Participant

                            As I see no evidence of 4568 Manhattan College Pkwy in the background, so I would say the picture was taken some years before 1925, the construction year of that apartment building. I don’t see Manhattan College (MC) either, so the picture was taken before 1922, the year MC cornerstone was laid. The 240th Street Yard (the train barn) was completed in 1911. I would say that the picture was taken between 1911 or 1912 and 1922 or before. I’m going to put a number on it and say that it was taken in 1915 (for want of anything more concrete).

                          • #4307
                            Thomas Casey
                            Participant

                              I do not know when that building became Paulian Hall,  but it was a pool hall downstairs and I was in a Bowling League upstairs  from about 1969 – 1974.

                            • #4308
                              jbakerjonathan
                              Participant

                                According to manhattan.edu, Manhattan College purchased the building in 1957 and opened it in 1958 as Paulian Hall. They sold the building in 1966.

                                I remember peering in when walking by and seeing skaters. I also somehow got into the pool in the back when it was closed and empty of water and wondering about the gymnastic rings hanging by ropes. Luckily, they were too high for me to reach or I probably would have climbed on them. Falling off of them onto the concrete floor would not have been pleasant. This occurred before 1957, possibly in the mid to late 1940’s.

                                I lived up the block (W 242nd street) at 4652 Manhattan College Pkwy. I remember the owner/manager of the Gulf station whose name was Hans who also had an old German shepherd dog. I used to fill my bicycle tires with air from the air pump stand (free in those days 8^).   Sometimes the dog would wander up to me to say hello.  Across the street from the gas station, on the curve toward the entrance to the train station, was a French Bake Shop. My mother had a part-time job behind the counter in 1938-1940. As a teen I would wet mop the floors after school (c.1951).

                                The building is now a parking garage.  There is an entrance to it on Manhattan College Pkwy with a pedestrian walkway from the College to it.  I’m not sure if there is any affiliation between the two, or if it is just a convenience for students and faculty who might park in that garage.

                              • #4309
                                jbakerjonathan
                                Participant

                                  The Paulian building probably was razed and replaced by the parking garage, though I have no information on that.

                                • #4320
                                  jbakerjonathan
                                  Participant

                                    Yes, Nick, that factory made various chocolates. The aroma was mouth watering at times. I’m not sure why the decision was made to sell to Manhattan College.

                                  • #4321
                                    jbakerjonathan
                                    Participant

                                      Tom, the map from 1901 shows the IRT train tracks and 242nd Street station as well as the 240th Street Yard. From what I can find the Yard first opened in 1906 with the barn finished in 1911 and the train station opened in 1908. Do you think that the planning of those was completed sufficiently before to be included in the 1901 map? Or could there be some other explanation?

                                    • #4322
                                      jbakerjonathan
                                      Participant

                                        Nick, your link to the original photograph of “Hedley Hall” states that it was taken from W 242nd street circa 1916. I’m thrilled that my guesses were so close!

                                        The description of the photo says that the field was “Interborough Field”. Was the land extending from the 240th Street Yard to W 242nd street owned by the Interborough Rapid Transit company (IRT)?

                                        In the 1901 map there appears a road labeled “Road”. Do you think that that may have been Irwin Avenue? Did it actually connect with the intersection of Waldo Ave and Spuyten Duyvil Pkwy?

                                        I can’t seem to paste a picture of the Street View of the intersection of Waldo and Manhattan College Pkwy looking down what may have been Irwin Ave (with boulders to the left of the path). Many years ago there was a stone retaining wall just to the left of the sidewalk that extended from the intersection to past the front of the red building with the glass façade (Kelly Student Commons). There was a drop off to its left, on what I think was the Irwin Ave side. My recollection from 1942-1943 is that there was no road there.

                                         

                                      • #4323
                                        Tom Gaffney
                                        Participant

                                          Hi, Jonathan,

                                          The “1901 Map” is an insurance atlas map.  These were periodically issued, and then were added to as improvements were built.  So the map remained dated 1901, even as it was continuously amended to show improvements that came afterward, until such time as a whole new map was issued.  There was no way, in 1901, to have anticipated that there would be a maintenance building there, as the original IRT plan had the Broadway Local terminating at 230th Street and Bailey Avenue, where it would connect with the New York Central 230th Street station.

                                        • #4324
                                          testtesttest
                                          Participant

                                            Thanks for that info, Tom.  I’ve looked at a lot of those insurance maps but didn’t really know how they were used.

                                            As for Jonathan’s question about the section labeled “Road” on the 1901 map…  That is the very useful footpath used mostly by Manhattan College Students that goes from the intersection of Waldo and Manhattan College Parkway down to Irwin Ave and W. 240th Street.  I think the large boulders are still there.  I have seen it mapped as a road going back to the 1800s but I am not sure if it was ever used for vehicles.  In smaller lettering on the map you can see it labeled “Spuyten Duyvil Road,” which I believe is the old name for Irwin Ave.

                                          • #4329
                                            jbakerjonathan
                                            Participant

                                              Thanks for the clarification, Tom. In my field of endeavor I was always aware of the need to highlight any revision to documentation. Without revision letters, I wonder how those maps were not a cause of confusion, unless those revised maps were somehow identified.

                                              Testtesttest, I was aware of the footpath. One of my friends who lived at 3875 Waldo Ave would use the path to get to Broadway and a meat market in that area. I wonder if it ever had become a road, though that seems very unlikely.

                                            • #4330
                                              Tom Gaffney
                                              Participant

                                                The insurance maps in NYC were published by either Sanborn or Belcher Hyde for use by insurance companies. The buildings are color-coded.  Red is a brick building. Yellow is wood frame. Yellow with a red fringe is wood frame, with brick face. Blue is stone. Gray is iron. Insurance companies would set their rates accordingly.  If a new building replaced an old one, the staff would cut and paste the new structure right over the old.  They often did it so artfully that you can’t tell, unless you have the actual original in front of you.  Most of the additions that you see on that bit of the map were just drawn in.  These maps are widely available online.

                                                I’m a Manhattan College graduate.  I walked up and down that path 1,000 times.  It is a public street shown as “Waldo Walk” on the current tax map. I doubt if it was ever open to vehicles. The large rocks on the north side of the path were blasted away for the Raymond Kelly Student Commons Building.  The ones on the south side, which made a great visual and sonic backdrop for the Gaelic Park concerts of the 1970s are still there.

                                              • #4331
                                                jbakerjonathan
                                                Participant

                                                  Thanks for that additional info on the insurance maps, Tom. I would assume that any map shown on the publisher’s website would be considered the latest and greatest. But, how were things handled back in the early years of the 20th century?

                                                  I have an unknown Manhattan student to thank for saving my life back in 1943(ish). In the middle of summer on a very hot day I had grabbed an ice cube from the refrigerator and was sucking on it as I walked up Spuyten Duyvil Pkwy. Class had just let out and students were walking down to the subway. The ice cube got caught in my throat and I couldn’t breath. I suppose that I was clutching my throat when one of the students bent down, grabbed my ankles, swung me upside down and hit me on the back. The ice cube popped out and I was put back on my feet. The student continued to walk away as I recovered. Luckily, I was a small, lightweight kid and he was a strong and quick-thinking person. I guess engineers are kind of bright individuals 8^D

                                                • #4332
                                                  Tom Gaffney
                                                  Participant

                                                    Hi, Jonathan,

                                                    Good story about the unknown Jasper! I’m a sucker for happy endings.

                                                    I don’t always tout Wikipdia, but look at their article on Sanborn Maps.  It gives a very good history and good rundown on how they work.  I have over 40 years in the title insurance business, and I do history and architecture walking tours in the city.  These maps have been invaluable in each of these pursuits.  But always there is the caveat – The date can be misleading!

                                                  • #4333
                                                    jbakerjonathan
                                                    Participant

                                                      The Sanborn Maps wikipedia page explains how the maps were kept up to date. It was very labor-intensive, sending out a cadre of people to physically paste new information on each map held by subscriber businesses. Wow!

                                                      • #4938
                                                        blackbird1
                                                        Participant

                                                          On the subject of the updated insurance maps—the KHS arcvhive recently received a G.W. Bromley atlas dated 1922. On the inside cover is a list of all the updates—the latest for this atlas being 1927. Never saw this before, since I’ve only used the maps online and never actually handled an entire atlas. FYI, this atlas covers 145th St. to Spuyten Duyvil.

                                                      • #4878
                                                        tmara2
                                                        Participant

                                                          Hedley Field - 1924

                                                          Hedley Field (aka Hedley Oval in 1924)

                                                        • #4879
                                                          tmara2
                                                          Participant

                                                            1918

                                                            From the NYHS dated 1918 at unknown location in the Bronx (I believe it to be Hedley Field).

                                                          • #4880
                                                            tmara2
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                                                            • #4881
                                                              tmara2
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                                                              • #4887

                                                                Tom

                                                                The Bowling Alley/Pool Hall was actually south of  the transit workers foot bridge that still goes from the tracks to the headquarters building. It is now a church Palabra de Dios.

                                                                Paulian Hall (Pontiac showroom) is north of the footbridge next to the old Gulf station and the intersection of  242 St and Broadway.

                                                                 

                                                              • #4888

                                                                JBaker.  Thanks for reviving the memory of the French Bakery on 242 St.

                                                                They had the most delicious cheese buns, cinnamon donuts and a sliced bread called Daffodil Farm.

                                                                I still compare all cheese danishes to those and Ha Ha none have surpassed them yet.

                                                              • #4889
                                                                jbakerjonathan
                                                                Participant

                                                                  Karlreinsons (Karl?), the pastry chef was Teddy, who, I think, had Parkinson’s Disease.  I watched in amazement when he would approach a cake with the icing bag very noticeably shaking, and then make beautiful designs with no shaking.  The baker and owner was Placid Calluso.  His wife was Marie, I think.  I always addressed her as Mrs. Calluso.  They had one child, a girl named June, or Junie as we called her.  She and my older sister (by 5 years) were great friends.

                                                                • #4890
                                                                  jbakerjonathan
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    tmara2, thanks for the photos.  I believe that you are correct in thinking they are of Hedley Oval.  The elevated station has what looks like the signal building and crew quarters that are a part of the 242nd Street station.

                                                                    Could you provide a link to the first photo?  The aerial view includes my old apartment building that was completed in 1923.  It also shows the carousel building adjacent to the North stair entrance to the train.  I’m interested in that, too.

                                                                  • #4900
                                                                    tmara2
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      “NYC Then & Now” – go to the right side of the slider & scroll down & select 1924, which should bring up that aerial view on the right side & should keep the latest aerial view on the left side of the slider:

                                                                      https://nyc.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/media/index.html?appid=e011fd05a86a4c09bd0b91fbc387f3eb

                                                                       

                                                                    • #4901
                                                                      jbakerjonathan
                                                                      Participant

                                                                        Thank you for the link to NYC Then & Now.  It’s a fascinating map.  Alas, zooming in doesn’t improve the definition at all for my neighborhood.  It’s interesting to see the changes.  I can recall the flower arrangement that the Parks Department planted in front of the Manor house.  It really was breathtaking to see the hundreds of flowers neatly planted in the grid pattern, with the marble fountain in the center.  The last time I was there, probably 10 years ago, the fountain was boarded up with plywood sheets.  From the 2024 photo is seems to be completely missing.  Sad.

                                                                      • #4902
                                                                        tmara2
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          Another view from the 1st base side. You can see Spuyten Duyvil Parkway (now Manhattan College Parkway) rising in the background. These pics come from the Interborough Rapid Transit Company archives & the teams are probably made up of subway workers.

                                                                          https://dcmny.org/do/346ba8b4-48e8-4aa3-804b-1cea56d87680

                                                                        • #4925

                                                                          Jonathan

                                                                          Thanks for the info on the bakery on 242 St.

                                                                          What was the name of it ?

                                                                        • #4926

                                                                          Jonathan

                                                                          As a kid in the mid 50s I remember the floral displays ( mostly begonias) around the Fountain. If I remember correctly, even then the fountain was no longer functional.

                                                                          The flowers were gone by the end of the decade as VC Park and the Bronx started their slide into neglect.

                                                                          My building (230 West 242 St) was supposedly built in 1920 but does seem to appear on that overhead.

                                                                          interesting that the carousel still existed at that time.

                                                                           

                                                                        • #4934
                                                                          jbakerjonathan
                                                                          Participant

                                                                            Karl,

                                                                            According to NYCityMap 226 W 242nd Street was constructed in 1924. My building, 4652 Manhattan College Pkwy, was constructed in 1923.
                                                                            I have a story about when I was a teenager and lived there. One afternoon after school I was in my room and heard loud voices. I looked out my bedroom window across to 226 and saw a fight going on in the top apartment between teenage brothers. One of the brothers was knocked against the window so hard that it broke the glass and the sash, He almost went out onto the street but luckily didn’t. I mean, he grabbed both sides of the window opening to prevent his falling. It was surreal. The picture shows my bedroom window in the black circle and the other bedroom window in red.

                                                                            I think that the name of the bakery was The French Bake Shop or maybe The French Bakery.

                                                                            I was attending CCNY in the Fall of 1950 and then transferred to a college in North Carolina and was basically away until I got out of the Army in 1963. Prior to that we were neighbors 8^)

                                                                          • #4937
                                                                            jbakerjonathan
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              Closer examination of the aerial photo leads me to believe that my apartment building is not in the picture, at least not completely constructed. The orange shape is where my building should be in the year 1924, right next to 215 W 242nd St. that is shown and casts a shadow. The yellow line is Spuyten Duyvil Pkwy which should go right past 4652. Perhaps construction has just begun. The resolution isn’t good enough to say for sure.  According to NYCityMap, both 4652 and 215 were built in 1923 and the Then & Now app claims the photo was shot in 1924. One of those two sources isn’t completely right. Frustrating.

                                                                            • #4949

                                                                              JBaker

                                                                              Thanks for the info on the French Bakery.

                                                                              It might just be the quality, but the photo that you drew the yellow line on doesn’t seem to show 242 Street

                                                                            • #4957
                                                                              jbakerjonathan
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                                                                                Karl, the red dots show 242nd street, the yellow line shows SDP and the yellow dots show the one-story buildings on the curve, one of which would house The French Bakery.

                                                                              • #4966

                                                                                Thank you very much Jonathan

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