Ferris Wheel at 242nd Street – Date?

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    • #1643

      The KHS account got a question on Twitter about the date of this photo and I thought I would crowd-source and answer.  Any ideas?  It might help to know when Broadway and the subway station were widened at 242nd Street.

    • #1644

      NY Transit Museum website says 10/8/1908–

      “Survey photograph looking south at the 242nd Street Station on the IRT West Side / Seventh Avenue Line, two months after the opening of the station. The photograph shows a carnival, including a ferris wheel and carousel, being either put up or taken down.”

      https://nytm.pastperfectonline.com/photo/A209B96A-53BC-4279-BC14-748940256500

      Dorothy Dewitz

       

    • #1645

      Yes….The line opened  August 1, 1908…There is a nice color postcard I used in my book “Bronx Views”…a  B & W in my book, Northwest Bronx.  I think it lasted to 1917242nd and Broadway Ferris Wheel

    • #1646

      Thanks.  Unless I am mistaken that is a carousel behind the Ferris wheel.  The below photo was taken in April of 1908 so it was a pretty quick turn around for a completed station and amusement park.

    • #1647

      Yes…and a band shell on top with a restaurantNorthwest Bronx - TX Casey

    • #1877

      Former Pabst Van Cortlandt Park Hotel, partly burned, on the West Side of Broadway, 1924

    • #1878

      I guess it didn’t last long. The photo above is from a 1924 fire.

    • #4995

      The widening of Broadway beginning at W 239th Street north to about 6035 Broadway occurred circa 1952.
      The carousel may have been constructed circa 1917-1920. This blow-up shows construction occurring to the extreme left viewed under the north stairs to the train station.  The photo is in the collection of the NY Public Library Digital Collection.

    • #5520

      I found this photo of the carousel that is claimed to have been taken in 1908.  My guess at the construction date in my message #4995 is wrong.  I’m providing a link to the photo as I believe that copying it and pasting it here might violate copyright law…I’m not sure.

      Broadway & 242nd Street Bronx, NY 1908 B

      Though I see no construction materials, the carousel doesn’t appear to be finished; no windows above.

      Of interest is the Ferris wheel that appears not to have any seats for people. I wonder how that worked.

      The station doesn’t seem to be finished, either. The wall that goes across Broadway doesn’t appear to be there yet. The roof over the stairs looks incomplete, too. So, the picture may have been taken before August 1, 1908, the day that the station was opened to the public.

      The weather must have been warm, judging from the lack of overcoats on the woman seated and the man/boy seated by the telephone pole. The trees have leaves, so maybe May-June timeframe.

      I wonder about the wooden building that can be seen beyond the carousel. Was it a hotel or a private home? Does anyone know? It looks like it is being razed in message #1877.

    • #5522

      That is where the Pabst Van Cortlandt Park Hotel was located, which I don’t know much about but I believe they were owned or associated with the Pabst beer company.  Apparently, there was a number of Pabst hotels around New York City with a big one of 43rd Street.

      The information gathered in this thread seems to indicate that the hotel didn’t last very long on 242nd.

    • #5523

      Here is another picture of that same scene showing the date of 7/29/1908.

      I’d like to add a new one with a date of circa 1920 that I believe to be at least 1923 or 1924.
      https://collections.mcny.org/asset-management/2F3XC5IK5J_X?&WS=SearchResults&Flat=FP

      My proof is the building 215 W 242nd street showing in the background that I have circled in red that was built in 1923 and is shown in the 1924 aerial view in NYC Now and Then app.

      Also, the building with the United Cigars and Ice Cream stores was build much earlier, I believe, than the build date of 1931 shown in NYCMap, since they are shown in the picture.

      By May 4, 1925 the Carousel was gone and 4652 Manhattan College Pkwy (just behind the street light globe) can be seen next to 215 W 242nd street.  Looking to the left of the telephone pole in the center of the picture all the way down to the southwest corner of W 242nd street can be seen a gas station, probably the Gulf station that I have mentioned in previous posts.  The neighborhood was becoming populated!

      The vent in the wall of the store behind the telephone pole and is positioned to the right of it and a foot above the sidewalk in the 1925 picture can be seen in the red circle of the 1923-1924 picture below, thus firmly dating it to those two years.

    • #5524

      It seems as though things got done a lot faster 100 years ago.  The elevator addition to the train station at W 242 street has taken over a year now.

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